KathyandJoel

So Bo Peep, Yes, try and find a place. We know that your finances are tight AND we always recommend the husband leaves, not the wife. Strategic move.....but we know he won't, so you may need to. He may turn around. There are abuse shelters. Not home but a place for you and Nevaeh for the time being. We've mentioned this before and you were not in favor of this suggestion.

Perfect! Your doing good. You did the right thing. 🙂👍❤️

OK. Thanks. That gives us something else to talk to him about. On the bright side, he definitely accomplished a lot yesterday. Kudos for that.

You could turn your phone Ringer off completely when you are driving the bus. In the last year have there ever been any emergencies at home that absolutely required that you answer the phone while you are driving the bus? Probably not. Or if you see that a phone call comes in from the girl's school or the girl's phone while they are at school then perhaps you could answer that as it might be an emergency. But as far as Dan goes? Can you remember the last time that he called you because there was an actual emergency? So you could leave the Ringer off and take a look at incoming calls when you're at a stop picking some kids up to see if there might have been a phone call from the school or from any of the girls. Or, just assume that there's probably not going to be any emergency that cannot wait until you're done with the bus trip? That way you could just leave the phone off completely.

"Dan, I have been at work, driving the bus. You don't need to call me 4 times. If you need something, just send me a text."

Hello Ruth, It's a Go. Today is your day to WIN! Today is a NEW DAY!

Glad yall got over the hump and had good conversations. Let's keep it rolling.

If he elbowed her in the face then that would be the time to call the police. At the same time, previous to that, he is the adult and she is the child. If he tells her to give him her phone for whatever reason then she is supposed to do that. It sounds like the thing escalated escalated because Dan has no mature control of himself and Nevada was completely disobedient. She probably was indeed getting out of hand and demanding that he not take her phone. You definitely will need to deal with Neveah about being obedient in that type of situation. You can tell her that if she thinks that he is wrong that she can have have the floor to completely explain her side of the story to you later and if Dan is wrong, you will have him apologize. It is not like she gets to choose whether to obey him or not if he gives her an order when you are not home. Perhaps the day will come when he will be mature enough that Neveah can say to him that she does not think that he is being fair and he will calmly and patiently let her explain herself. Again, as for him elbowing her in the face, if that is a reality, then the police should be called. It sounds more to me though like he took the phone and she decided that she was not going to be obedient and she started a fight to try to get the phone back and she lost the fight. Him telling her that you got into a wreck? That is simply unacceptable and he needs to apologize to Neveah and to you and he needs to quit lying. Liars go to h***. This is certainly a moment in time that you would have every right to simply lower the boom and call it quits and file divorce because of him being so abusive. You probably are not going to choose to do that right now which is fine so I suggest that you have him read this response and Dan, you need to take responsibility and straighten yourself out in these areas. Quit being so immature and quit lying and quit being abusive. At the same time Melissa, you definitely need to talk with Neveah that she does have to be obedient to Dan whether she agrees or not. She does not get to choose whether to be obedient. We gave our children permission to speak up and state their case and quite often they were right and I, Joel, was wrong. That took maturity on my part to allow them to do that. Dan, if you are going to take a step toward maturity then you are going to need going to need to allow Melissa to determine between the 2 of you if you and Neveah get into a childish 5 year old argument again.

Him not texting all day Accusing you of cheating when it was him that hot into an emotional affair ...searching for a girlfriend. And just his crazy unchristlike attitude. That's pretty easy to figure out. Then IGNORE him. Don't feed the monster. Don't engage unless he apologizes.

Kathys reply: So he is not at the meeting? Don't engage if he is being manipulative... Don't feed the monster. Put on forum please Nope not at the meeting. He accused me yesterday of cheating on him. Idk why he would say that?

Kathys reply: So he is not at the meeting? Don't engage if he is being manipulative... Don't feed the monster. Put on forum please Nope not at the meeting. He accused me yesterday of cheating on him. Idk why he would say that?

Mary Jane is saying it right. Look your best so any one of yalls mutual friends will go tell him, "Wow, she's doing pretty good without you. She looks great. You may have blown it. Just sayin!" 🤫😊

Hi there Mary Jane and Betty Boop. The meeting are awesome. You can watch them on YouTube. This is where I wanted to be for my birthday week. Here for the grand opening. Resting and getting rejuvenated. Re-fired up! Ready to see God move even more.

And thank you Mary Jane for your replies. We are working on getting back into the habit of the forum. Just getting back on our feet after being under the weather. Driving to Alabama right now for the Jewish New Year, in Warrior, Alabama being held at Church International. The speakers are Robin and Robin Bullock, Hank Kunneman, Timothy Dixon, Mylon Lefevre, Nancy Alcorn and Kent Christmas.

First, call your atty and let them know he changed the lock. Ilegal. Two: HIS atty wanted you to give 24 hours notice but it's not required. You own 1/2 the house. Three: See if atty will write a letter to his atty requiring him to give you a key. They may write it. If they've written a letter before, this letter may cost. Remember: Every time you call the primary law firm just tell the secretary you need to talk your situation over with an attorney and find out your rights.