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I am so sorry. Please let us know what we can do to be of assistance. Love, Love, Love you!!!!!!!!!!! God must have another way, whatever the situation may be.

Then just do it. Press forward into greatness. You were not created to be passive and blend into the background. Be proactive. Love your bride the way SHE needs to be loved.

Awesome. Thanks for the report. We have been thinking about yall and wondering how things were going. Good news that the pastor was willing to recant and be humble and teachable and listen to his wife's heart as well. We need more pastors like that. Don't forget to make being on the calls a priority. I know things get busy, but you guys cannot afford to get relaxed in this process. Trust me. Been down that road. Thanks for posting an update. Give your pretty wife a hug for me.

All good news! Thank you Lord! Love you girl. Have fun!

Just wanted to stop by to say that I really appreciate you and all that you do. Thank you for the love and compassion and sincerity that you pour forth. We all love you so! Did you see the wonderful post from Ed? http://joelandkathy.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/4999-just-do-it-following-the-instructions/page__pid__127609__st__0entry127609 Blessings to you MJ. Have a great weekend.

Wow! Awesome post, Ed. We are sorry to hear about your son's choices. Our son has taken a similar path. We know the pain of watching an adult child make those choices. Everything you said though, nails it. The truth of the matter. It IS a choice. Just do it. The reward is so worth it for husband, wife and family! We love you Ed & Tammy!

Very nice! So are you applying some of what we talked about on the call?

Good for you putting this on your thread. Good for recording the events and getting it out. Stand your ground for sure and definately don't allow him to go to that passive cycle. It is a drag sometimes, I know, but do tell him, point it out, etc. and hold him to it. You can do it. It is the only way to deal with a passive.

Ugh! I am so sorry. I know this is the ultimate frustration. It sounds like you guys should definately be back on saturday nights call with j & k.

I so feel for you Dory and Eeyore. Thankfully we're not experiencing this trait. I wonder if Jeff, of Jeff & Heather did this....... At any rate, this seemed appropriate in light of Joel's wisdom.............."If it weren't for plumbers, we'd have nowhere to go"................FLUSH IT, STEVE!

Rrrrrrrooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!! I love you! Thank you for being a safe place. My happy place. I know sometimes it can still get bumpy, but I KNOW the result IS alaways gonna be SMOOTH. You roar baby!

Glad you are on the call. I know you are hurt and angry and just plain tired! We are all here to hold your arms up. I totally understand where you are at.

That is awesome!

I know how frustrated you are, but it does take time. Teaching (helpmeet) a student (husband) a new concept, way, habit, lesson or need, like any other student, takes diligence on the part of the teacher and commitment and teachablity on the part of the student. I get frustrated when one of my kids doesn't grasp a concept as quickly as I think they should, however you know as well as I do each person is different and learns differently according to their individuality. Yes, sometimes our kids "play" us, and we need discernment for that and wisdom for any consequences that need to take place in order to teach them the way that leads to life. This process is very similar. I don't know if this helps, but I have been where you are and I too grew very frustrated. It took a loooooong time between each breakthrough. Steve will tell you, it has been a tough, long road. Has it been worth it? Absolutely! I am so glad that I did not give up and kept holding his feet to the fire all the times that I was ready to throw in the towel. Hard? Unbelievably! Worth it? Unbelievably! Love you sweety, no matter what road you need to take. We are here for you!

Keep in mind that most of the 3 year husbands you are referencing to, are couples/husbands that for whatever reason, did not stick to the homework plan. It is CRITICAL to stay plugged in. When we decide we got it figured out and we can do it now on our own apart from the ministry, we often meet our demise and experience failure. Many couples read the books and get their miracle, but for those of us with severely arrested and/or stubborn husbands.........well, we cannot afford not to be on the calls, watching the dvds and reading the books.

May I ask what type of things do you say regarding this? How do you approach him about a relationship with the Lord? Hang in there. I understand you are frustrated and concerned.

Laughing my head off!

Excellent! Stay humble and keep moving in a good direction.

Hang in there girl.

BH, You must continue to initiate regardless of her response. This is so important. Press in and do not stop initiating. You cannot stop pouring in oxytocin every chance you get. Back it up with life giving words. Get on the call with us tomorrow night and see if we can help yall.

The best advise steve and I have is to do the opposite of what you feel in the m/s moment. Remember, she is my wife, my lover and I need her. Press in with her. Lots of oxytocin, hugs, smiles, kisses and compliments. Fight every ounce of resistance in yourself. By doing this it helps you grow up and out of m/s.

Just keep trusting the Lord and in his mighty power. Do what we are teaching you here. she will eventually come out with what is in her heart. Just keep walking this out and wait. I'm sure it is tough, but you can do this. It takes time and she needs to see you stay the coarse and ne trustworthy. Don't dwell on whether she is trustworthy or not. Just pray for her walk with the Lord and watch yours closely.

Hope it helps!

Declarations #1 The following ten basic declarations are foundational to the building of your faith. They will increase expectancy of God’s goodness; and will thus increase the manifestation of that goodness in your life. Say these (and the other declarations lists) every day for a month and see what happens to your life (Romans 4:17; Romans 10:9,10). 1. My prayers are powerful and effective (2 Corinthians 5:21; James 5:16b). 2. God richly supplies all my needs (Philippians 4:19). 3. I am dead to sin and have a victorious DNA in me (Romans 6:11; Romans 5:17). 4. I walk in ever-increasing health (Isaiah 53:3-5; Psalm 103:1-5). 5. I live under a supernatural protection (Psalm 91, Hebrews 8:6). 6. I prosper in all my relationships (Luke 2:52). 7. I consistently bring God encounters to other people (Mark 16:17,18; Acts 3:6). 8. In Jesus, I am 100% loved and worthy to experience all of God’s blessings (Colossians 1:12-15). 9. Each of my family members is wonderfully blessed and radically loves Jesus (Acts 16:30, 31). 10. I uproariously laugh when I hear a lie from the devil (Psalm 2:2-4). *A note on these declarations: We won’t have something just because we say something, but saying something is necessary to having it. If at the beginning of the 40 days, you don’t understand fully why these three sets of declarations are important; then speak them by faith anyway. Some of the first devotionals willgive clarity as to their importance.